Charlie ([info]ccfinlay) wrote,
@ 2006-02-26 13:38:00
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I've been a bit grumpy the past few days, feeling like I had too much to do and not enough time to do all of it, and that's made me snappish and growly. Just ask [info]secritcrush. A lot of it has been wanting to write more, or, rather, do nothing but write.

Then, out of the blue, I've received two emails from readers of Wild Things. The first was this remark on my zombie story: "I really, really love 'Fading Quayle, Dancing Quayle' I think it's a masterpiece. Way to go!"

Now, I loved writing that story, and it did get a Year's Best Honorable Mention and all. But for the most part, I felt it didn't really click for readers the way I had wanted it to. Parts of it seemed too familiar, other parts of it didn't really gel. Even so, it's so satisfying as a writer to have a story click perfectly with even one reader. That made my day.

The other email had a bit more to say:

I've been reading "Wild Things" and just finished "Footnotes." I thought the
final couplet was one of the most brilliant pieces of writing I've
encountered for a long time-
"For some, for some, not even that,
A rapture without trumpets, without salvation."
Thanks.

What writer doesn't like to hear "masterpiece" and "brilliant"? But this one is interesting because the poem that ends the story was written at Gordon's insistence when he bought it for F&SF. He showed huge trust in doing that, because it was only the second story he'd bought from me and he didn't know me as a writer yet (no one did!) -- so he had no clue if I could pull it off, and without that poem, the story doesn't really have any emotional resonance.

Come to think of it, I had written Quayle for the first zombie anthology, Book of All Flesh, and the editor didn't think the ending worked. He sent it back to me to rewrite and then took it for the sequel volume.

Endings continue to be a problem for me. Gordon has made me rewrite the endings for two of the last three stories he's bought from me, and John Scalzi did the same thing for the story he bought for Subterranean. (And the other story Gordon bought recently had been through the MFA class I was taking, OWW, and my local crit group, so I'd already been forced to identify and fix the problem ending.)

I complained to Gordon that I felt like one of those ski jumpers who blows the landing, losing their knees when they hit down and dragging their ass through the snow, ruining some otherwise spiffy arial acrobatics. The difference being that writers get editors instead of judges and a chance to rewrite their landings to get them right. He told me a story about Stephen King selling a story to F&SF and having to revise the ending a couple times to nail it.

So at least it's not my problem only. I know many of the tricks and techniques for nailing endings, but I'm going to have to figure out a way to practice them and start matching the right tool to the right story so I get them right the first time out. Which is nothing to feel grumpy about at all.



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[info]retrobabble
2006-02-26 07:01 pm UTC (link)
I've been a bit grumpy the past few days, feeling like I had too much to do and not enough time to do all of it, and that's made me snappish and growly.

Heh, I relate and sympathize. And how nice to have such lovely compliments at just the right time!

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[info]ccfinlay
2006-02-26 07:16 pm UTC (link)
Heh, I relate and sympathize.

I'm sorry to hear that. Sometimes you feel a certain way, and, even though you know other people feel the same way, you hope they don't.

And how nice to have such lovely compliments at just the right time!

Yeah! At exactly the right time.

You deserve lovely compliments too. Like, hrm, what a beautiful sink you have! Those are gorgeous knobs!

No, that doesn't sound quite right. Let me think about it some more.

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[info]retrobabble
2006-02-26 07:48 pm UTC (link)
Let me think about it some more.

Eeep! No! No! No more thinking on your part. Please! *lmho*

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[info]ccfinlay
2006-02-26 10:09 pm UTC (link)
But... but... what's wrong with being thoughtful?

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[info]retrobabble
2006-02-26 10:25 pm UTC (link)
As you know, Bob, there is a difference between thoughtful and thinking.

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[info]ccfinlay
2006-02-27 01:59 am UTC (link)
Crap. And here I thought thoughtful just meant thinking more, until, well, yanno, you were full of thought.

I think I'm full of something...

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[info]pjthompson
2006-02-26 07:37 pm UTC (link)
Endings are agony, in the doing and in the nailing. "Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat"--or not. I empathize. But at least you're able to get there eventually.

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[info]ccfinlay
2006-02-26 10:06 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, getting there eventually is better than not getting there at all.

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[info]erzebet
2006-02-26 07:56 pm UTC (link)
Based on my slush reading for CdF, it is apparent that endings give a lot of people trouble. They give me trouble. I maintain that the ending of Prodigal Troll worked very well. :)

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[info]ccfinlay
2006-02-26 10:07 pm UTC (link)
Thanks! But both my agent and then my editor made me rewrite that one a couple times too....

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[info]elvesforeyes
2006-02-26 08:09 pm UTC (link)
Endings are horrible.

Congrats on the praise though!

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[info]ccfinlay
2006-02-26 10:07 pm UTC (link)
Thanks!

And endings aren't horrible per se. It's just getting them right that's tough.

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[info]iagor
2006-02-26 08:10 pm UTC (link)
The compliments were well deserved. I sympathize with wanting to do nothing but write. The thought of logging into my que tomorrow fills me with panic.

I screw up the beginnings. Every single time.

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[info]ccfinlay
2006-02-26 10:08 pm UTC (link)
Well, at least that gives people a reason to bail on you early, so they don't invest a lot of time before they're supremely disappointed... ;-)

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[info]iagor
2006-02-26 10:13 pm UTC (link)
:stares: Charlie, you're so sweet, how can you stand it? :P

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[info]ccfinlay
2006-02-27 02:03 am UTC (link)
*sniff* *sniff sniff sniff*

Ah, I love the smell of sarcasm in the morning.

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[info]iagor
2006-02-27 02:04 am UTC (link)
It's 09:00 pm. You've been sniffing too much sarcasm - see now you're losing time. :P

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[info]raecarson
2006-02-27 01:52 am UTC (link)
Yes. Beginnings. *commiserates*

Maybe we can do a trade? Toss Charlie a few endings in exchange for some great starts?

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[info]iagor
2006-02-27 01:53 am UTC (link)
Toss, nothing. See, you're looking at it wrong. I say we get some honey and feathers, knock him out, smear him with honey, put feathers on him, take numerous pictures and then blackmail him. He'll be writing beginnings for us until the end of the world.

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[info]ccfinlay
2006-02-27 01:57 am UTC (link)
Clearly you underestimate how much I'm willing to do for a nice end.

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[info]iagor
2006-02-27 01:57 am UTC (link)
Heeeeeee!

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[info]raecarson
2006-02-27 02:18 am UTC (link)
*snerk*

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[info]ccfinlay
2006-02-27 02:09 am UTC (link)
If you made them great endings, I'd think about it. I've got all the run-of-the-mill lousy endings I can use already...

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[info]raecarson
2006-02-27 02:29 am UTC (link)
Of course, we would only, ever, toss great endings your way. *g*

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[info]honestgamer
2006-02-27 12:53 am UTC (link)
Endings are hard for me too, particularly with short stories. I guess the main problem for me is that my short stories don't always have a really good point. When I get to the ending and I'm thinking about wrapping things up in a satisfactory (or at least clever) fashion, I just can't be sure what to do...

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[info]ccfinlay
2006-02-27 02:04 am UTC (link)
It sounds like you're sure what to do -- wrap things up in a satisfactory or at least clever fashion -- so maybe the problem is how to do it.

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[info]everyonesakitty
2006-02-27 02:26 am UTC (link)
Ew, endings! Beginnings are hard, too, but endings are the worst. I like your phrase "emotional resonance." I think that's why endings are so hard for me; I either feel like I'm preaching, forcing the emotion or being too obscure.

I know many of the tricks and techniques for nailing endings

Hm. Where would one learn such things?

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[info]db_writer
2006-02-27 07:32 pm UTC (link)
I remember a quote from my college days: "Great is the art of beginnings, but greater still the art of endings."

Sometimes the end of a story comes to me before the beginning. I found a last line just the other night for my latest short:

"But sometimes I do miss baseball." Tells you nothing about the story really, but I love it!

I think you can get endings anywhere, from news, sports, jokes. I think that the more we absorb from varied sources, the more content we have in our sub-concious to download into a story or novel idea.

Just my opinion, but I think when we get wrapped around storytelling too much, we sometimes limit ourselves to only thinking in terms of the existing story conventions.

Does that make any sense?

db

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